I’ll go to my kitchen and throw put that whey powder – right now!

so that’s why little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet…if only she had known better

@Dirk: Don’t do that! Sell it to the gym jocks!

@urmiraj14: Why do you think the spider scared her away? Protected her from eating the whey…

Are you a fricking retard. First, your body will manage the protein absorption issue your concerned with. Unless you eat too much whey protein, well, you’ll most likely get diarrea (spelt wrong).

Body needs high protein intake to allow adequate anabolic response after the muscle tears from working out. Unless you are not working your muscles properly, i don’t see how whey protein has any cons.

ABCD from CT, USA

@Fitho: I am guessing the article you have spammed on our comment page is about a product that your website sells? Just a hunch.

I appreciate your visiting our blog so often! We appreciate your clicks.

Could you also give us some information about who sells Fitho’s plans and protein supplements and who is behind the website? I looked for a link on it, but couldn’t find any names other than those of forum contributors. Cheers:)

@Fitho: Back to protect your honour I see… I’m guessing it took your boss a month to say okay you may post another reply. If that’s the case, you and your boss are simply going to love our new post:
http://healthylivingindia.blogspot.com/2009/05/whey-protein-supplements-spot-online.html

Good article but only half true.
I agree with the article that if your diet consists of sufficient protein, you don't want to add extra protein to your diet. Unfortunately, not everyone has that luxury (especially if you are a vegetarian, or your lifestyle doesn't allow a healthy diet everyday)

1. Whey is an extract of milk (so organic). If you are taking whey protein supplement, I can't imagine any harm.

2. Excess of anything is bad. You take too much of protein supplement without working out and not allowing your body to repair torn lean muscle, all that protein supplement you take is going down the drain.

3. My trainer is a big fan of natural sources of protein e.g. chicken, fish, lean meat etc, but he also suggests to take at least 3 scoops (2o gm) of whey every morning.

Whey protein is a natural byproduct from enzyme and acid produced cheese making. Whey protein is a component of all mammalian milk.

Good article, but I disagree with the notion of “having to eat meat.” I’m a vegetarian, and I’m in great shape, working on a near daily basis. While meat is high in protein, it’s certainly FAR from essential to maintaining a good physique.

Haha, this is this only article I can find that says whey protein is bad for you and it appears to be based on very little scientific fact. By no means is whey protein essential and you can definitely build muscle without it but to claim it is bad for you is a bit of a stretch. It’s been shown to extend a hamster’s life by 60%. No studies have shown any detrimental effects to humans, someone whould apparently have to eat 4-5 times their body wieght for it to even be a possibilty. Why bother writing a blog about it unless you actually have some new info on the subject?

@Name: This is a blog with our opinions, and not a medical journal. Probably why we allow anonymous commenting to encourage discussions. I doubt a medical journal would allow your opinions, if you weren’t willing to back them up with your name and identity.

You do have a point about whey protein not being harmful, just on it’s own. This post was more about people abusing whey protein in their quest to be buff. Excess of any kind is harmful.

@Seth: You make a very valid point. But if you look at daily consumption, very few people actively maintain a vegetarian diet that is balanced and protein rich. On the other hand, it is a lot easier with meat. You don’t have to give it much thought and you’ll notch up those protein scales. In fact stick around, I intend to write a post for vegans about how they can incorporate maximum nutrients in their daily diet.

Whey Protein serves as a dietary source of amino acids. The body needs amino acids to build the various proteins used in the growth, repair and maintenance of body tissues such as skin, bones and muscles.

Whey protein also offers the benefits of supplying high nutritional value and branched chain amino acids (BCAA) to athletes. BCAA are essential amino acids, which are part of muscle protein. They may preserve muscle glycogen stores and help reduce the amount of protein breakdown during exercise.

Everyone commenting here is a big ignorant, with big Ego’s. Prashant, thinks is as well, since you all are part of that group that is being deceived by the great whey protein marketeers and would never think excess whey is bad for you. The guy even calculated the ratio of protein per body weight. All of your claims are worthless, pointless, and are not even close in directing what is stated by Prashant. One idiot just says Ohhh the kidneys have nothing to do with thiss…righttttt The other guy just says Ohhhh whey is good for you the body needs its…..righttttttttt, like it needs many other things. Another beef head, just thinks Prashant is a little kid. The other just thinks the ratio to body weight/height to protein intake is just BS. People…there is a reason to the cause, but you are so caught up the game that don’t even know how to think. the website states healthy living India or whatever….but it doesn’t say healthy living america, because that concept just doesn’t exist.

What’s The Best Protein Available Right Now?

During the course of my research, I had the good fortune of meeting Calli O’Brien. She introduced me to a totally new product, that’s quickly becoming the new protein king on the block. It’s going to allow people to exceed their previous athletic performances without causing the problems that whey protein or isolated forms of protein have.

It’s called hemp protein.

And you might be asking yourself, “Whoa, gee, man… Is that the stuff you smoke?” And of course, it’s not. There’s hemp and cannabis. Cannabis is the female plant… And hemp is the male plant, which has a negligible THC content. So, it doesn’t cause any highs.

Then research is showing that hemp is one of the most amazing proteins you can possibly give your body. Let me break down what hemp does… What makes it so great? And how can you use it to accelerate your muscle gains, and burn off your bodyfat?

Why Is This The Greatest Protein Source Out There?

Hemp seeds contain all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids necessary for muscle repair and hypertrophy. There is no other single plant source that has all the essential amino acids in such an easily digestible form, the enzymes, the bacteria and the essential fatty acids in such a perfect ratio to meet athlete’s nutritional needs.

Here’s the 7 Reasons Why This Is
The Most Anabolic Protein On The Market…

1. Crank your testosterone with the most potent source of essential fatty acids in nature…

Science has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that a diet that’s moderately high in fats increases testosterone levels. But, the question is, what’s the best source of fat and what’s the magic ratios? Here’s the scoop…

The oil from hemp seeds has the lowest amount of saturated fatty acids at 8%, and the highest amount of the polyunsaturated essential fatty acids at 80% of its total oil volume.

Hemp seed contains linoleic acid (LA) and linolenic acid (LNA), which can’t be created by your body and that’s why they are called essential fatty acids (EFAs). So, the only way to get them inside your body is through your diet.

LA and LNA are 2 critical fatty acids for optimal health and anabolism. Know that EFAs play a huge role in your muscle growth, your vitality and your state of mind.

For maximum growth, at least 30% of the fats you consume should be EFAs. At the very minimum, 10% of daily calories should be LA and 2% LNA. The optimal ratio of LA to LNA in the diet is between 2 to 1 and 5 to 1. Hemp seed oil is 55% LA and 25% LNA, or 2.2 times more LA than LNA, making it the best oil for muscle growth and tissue regeneration.

LA, LNA are essential for the exchange of electrical energy inside your oxygen dependant tissues — especially the brain, retina, inner ear, adrenal and testicular tissues (which produce growth-inducing testosterone).

LA and LNA possess a slightly negative charge, so they get inside your system and perform their magic. They form very thin surface layers which helps your body detoxify by carrying toxins to the surface of the skin, intestinal tract, kidneys and lungs where they can be eliminated.

The Perfect Balance…

Hemp has the perfect balance of omega 6 and omega 3… It has the “magical” 3 to 1 ratio. This was discovered by, Udo Erasmus, one of the top experts on oils and fats in the world. Mother Nature just naturally formulated hemp in a 3 to 1 ratio.

Last but not least, hemp has GLA… This is one of the hardest EFAs to get in your body because there are only a few sources such as evening primrose oil and borage oil. GLA is crucial for hormone balancing. You’ll feel your testosterone levels rise and you’ll see the results in the mirror.

The hemp seed is the perfect container to safely store your EFAs and protect them from light and oxygen damage. Hemp seeds contain the perfect balance of the essential fatty acids required by bodybuilders and hard training athletes.

2. Turbo-charge your protein synthesis naturally…

Enzymes are your body’s workers. They do over 3000 functions in your body, including breaking down protein into amino acids and synthesizing the aminos into new muscle. All enzymes are globular proteins and perform most of the “magic” inside your body.

One of the unique things about hemp seed protein is that 65% of it, is globulin edistin. No other plant on earth comes close to this. Globulin edistins within the seed guarantee it has the enzymes necessary for metabolic activity and growth.

Globulin is the third most abundant protein in your body. When you work out, you are draining your globulin reserves. Globulins perform many enzymatic processes within the plasma including protein synthesis and fat burning.

The best way to insure the body has enough amino acid material to fuel your anabolic drive is to eat foods high in globulin proteins. Since hemp seed protein is 65% globulin edistin, and also includes quantities of albumin, its protein is readily available to feed your muscles.

Eating hemp protein gives your body all the essential amino acids required to maintain health, enhance your immune system, and build serious muscle mass.

3. Boost your body with “friendly” bacteria

Most people believe bacteria are negative. They think of bacteria as evil creatures that need to be eliminated at all costs.

The problem is, people are eliminating good bacteria along with the bad. You have “friendly” bacteria (or friendly flora) in your intestinal tract that boosts your immune system and breaks down the food you’re eating. Without “friendly” bacteria, you just can’t break down protein properly, so you can’t get the amino acids inside your muscle. This also fuels obesity.

This might sound a little gross, but if your farts smell really nasty, you can bet you’ve got an imbalance of good and bad bacteria in your body. That means you don’t have enough good bacteria in you body and the protein you’re eating is feeding the “evil bacteria” and creating toxic fumes that scare everyone around you.

High quality hemp protein has naturally occurring “friendly bacteria” that helps boost your anabolic drive.

4. Switch your body from a nightmarish acidic state to an anabolic alkaline state…

The ideally PH level for maximum growth is around 7.35 to 7.5. Almost no one in bodybuilding is even close to that.

Most bodybuilders are really, really deep on the acidic side. They’re eating a lot of acid-producing foods, processed foods, and dead proteins. This contributes to this acid effect inside your body that builds layers of sludge inside your intestinal tract that stops the absorption of nutrients.

So, if you’re not experiencing, regular and consistent gains, you can almost be certain your body’s PH level has become acidic. Hemp can dramatically alter your body’s PH level and help make you huge.

5. Flood your muscles with amino acids

Every weightlifter knows they need amino acids to repair muscle cells and create growth. Hemp protein contains all the essential amino acids and essential fatty acids necessary to get you as big as you want. No other single plant source has the essential amino acids in such an easily digestible form.

6. Eliminate intestinal toxemia (which causes the “bloated belly” look) and reclaim your nutrient-absorbing power…

High quality hemp has fiber. Consuming hemp protein creates a gentle cleansing effect that reduces intestinal toxemia. In one serving you get 13.2 grams of fiber and 92% of that is insoluble fiber (which is harder to get in your diet).

And it really helps to get into the cracks and crevices of your colon — Scrubs it and takes out all the whey gunk and sludge. So you might go through a bit of a gentle detox. After a few short weeks, you’ll feel more energy, more raw power and a tighter waistline.

7. Enter the “gorilla factor”…

And what’s really important about hemp and there’s no other protein on the market that gives you this, is the chlorophyll count. This helps your body get into that alkaline state that you desperately need, to get big beyond belief.

If you look at 600-pound gorillas, they are among the largest, most muscular animals in the animal kingdom and they are vegetarians. They’re all eating truckloads of chlorophyll and high amounts of fiber that’s keeping their bodies alkaline and their muscles growing.

So we asked one of the top hemp experts in the world, Calli O’Brien…

Please use some knowledge first. Prashant did his research, so Iam sure anybody can come up with a better claim TO WHY WHEY PROTEIN IS BETTER?

For starters, the negative health claims of the high protein diet on kidney function is based on information gathered from people who have preexisting kidney problems. You see one of the jobs of the kidneys is the excretion of urea (generally a non toxic compound) that is formed from ammonia (a very toxic compound) which comes from the protein in our diets. People with serious kidney problems have trouble excreting the urea placing more stress on the kidneys and so the logic goes that a high protein diet must be hard on the kidneys for healthy athletes also.
Now for the medical and scientific facts. There is not a single scientific study published in a reputable peer – reviewed journal using healthy adults with normal kidney function that has shown any kidney dysfunction what so ever from a high protein diet. Not one of the studies done with healthy athletes that I mentioned above, or other research I have read, has shown any kidney abnormalities at all. Furthermore, animals studies done using high protein diets also fail to show any kidney dysfunction in healthy animals.

Now don’t forget, in the real world, where millions of athletes have been following high protein diets for decades, there has never been a case of kidney failure in a healthy athlete that was determined to have been caused solely by a high protein diet. If the high protein diet was indeed putting undo stress on our kidneys, we would have seen many cases of kidney abnormalities, but we don’t nor will we.

From a personal perspective as a trainer for many top athletes from various sports, I have known bodybuilders eating considerably more than the above research recommends (above 600 grams a day) who showed no kidney dysfunction or kidney problems and I personally read the damn blood tests! Bottom line? 1-1.5 grams or protein per pound of bodyweight will have absolutely no ill effects on the kidney function of a healthy athlete, period. Now of course too much of anything can be harmful and I suppose it’s possible a healthy person could eat enough protein over a long enough period of time to effect kidney function, but it is very unlikely and has yet to be shown in the scientific literature in healthy athletes.

So what about the osteoporosis claim? That’s a bit more complicated but the conclusion is the same. The pathology of osteoporosis involves a combination of many risk factors and physiological variables such as macro nutrient intakes (carbs, proteins, fats), micro nutrient intakes (vitamins, minerals, etc), hormonal profiles, lack of exercise, gender, family history, and a few others. The theory is that high protein intakes raise the acidity of the blood and the body must use minerals from bone stores to “buffer” the blood and bring the blood acidity down, thus depleting one’s bones of minerals. Even if there was a clear link between a high protein diet and osteoporosis in all populations (and there is not) athletes have few of the above risk factors as they tend to get plenty of exercise, calories, minerals, vitamins, and have positive hormonal profiles.

Fact of the matter is, studies have shown athletes to have denser bones than sedentary people, there are millions of athletes who follow high protein diets without any signs of premature bone loss, and we don’t have ex athletes who are now older with higher rates of osteoporosis.
In fact, one recent study showed women receiving extra protein from a protein supplement had increased bone density over a group not getting the extra protein! The researchers theorized this was due to an increase in IGF-1 levels which are known to be involved in bone growth. Would I recommend a super high protein diet to some sedentary post menopausal woman? Probably not, but we are not talking about her, we are talking about athletes. Bottom line? A high protein diet does not lead to osteoporosis in healthy athletes with very few risk factors for this affliction, especially in the ranges of protein intake that have been discussed throughout this article.

sometimes the close-mindedness of people astounds me…….

im really so confused about this whey protien stuff that im very scared to buy it or to try it. Its not possible for me to have a protein rich meal everytime after i work out . . . plzz suggest something

A lot of misleading bullshit out there in the health food industry as usual, but particularly aimed at taking advantage of vegans and others looking to get away from dairy and animal proteins, and who may be more susceptible to taking a “too good to be true” proposition at face value.

PDCAAS is the new measuring standard of evaluating the protein quality based on both the amino acid requirements of humans and their ability to digest it. A PDCAAS value of 1 is the highest, and 0 the lowest as the table demonstrates the ratings of common foods below.

whey (1.0)
egg white (1.0)
casein (1.0)
milk (1.0)
soy protein isolate (1.0)
beef (0.92)
soybean (0.91)
tubercules (0.74)
vegetables (0.74)
legumes in general (0.69)
kidney beans (0.68)
rye (0.68)
cereals and derivatives (0.58)
whole wheat (0.54)
lentils (0.52)
peanuts (0.52)
rice (0.47)
hemp (0.46)
seitan (0.25)

do not be scared whey protein is just protein…. the difference is that it is quicker to absorb than a boiled egg or grlled chicken. After working out this is what you want, quick absorbtion. It is ” dangerous” to have to much protein be it whey or from food, due to kidney stress , your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein ( 40g) so you dnt need to go overboard hope this helps , do not be scared of whey protein , it is simply protein that is fast absorbing.

Hey,
i’ve read most of the arguments here and although they are quiet convincing, they really don’t solve any problem faced by a common man/ woman… people have their reasons to believe that whey works or not, but looking at the larger community, not every one wants to be a body bulider, i am just an Indian girl who wants to eat right… no body building involved… i am a Vegetarian, not even an eggitarian so the possibility of me getting my proteins from eggs everyday is gone… plus, although Indian diet does include lentils and dairy products, it does cross my mind that on a daily basis, there is a need for something EXTRA to make sure i do get my nutrition right…factually speaking, since the diet becomes soo restricted, it’s even monotonous after a point of time. You cannot expect me to keep eating my lentils and beans daily!! humans, need change… If someone has a way or method to ensure a daily nutritive meal, without it becoming boring after the 10th day, i would be interested to hear from them. i am looking for a supplement/diet that ensures that my body doesn’t end up in the hospital after 10 years because of side effects or malnutrition.